interview with kosick & herman

Tim Whidden (
9 Jun 99 13:04:36 -0500

twhid interviews those merry pranksters on the rhizome list, kosick & herman

tw: so tell me about your recent project, what is it called...

tk: "Endless Series of Mindless Rants"

mh: yes, its a series of emails we are posting to rhizome which create
characters whom happen to have our names, but who act in unpedictable,
delusional, or unstable manners.

tw: interesting, so your emails are a serial fiction, in which we get to know
the characters through their emails. so why did you decide to depict such
unattractive and unsavory characters?

tk: we felt like the artists on rhizome are too friendly to each other, they
lack a healthy critical stance, they are all in bed together it seems.

mh: these characters are supposed to represent the other extreme: people who are
so anti-social they become raving parodies themselves. we hope by portraying
this to the list, we can find a healthy middle ground.

tw: and how does this relate to art in general?

mh: it's a new media project in its form; the serial email, or "super-spam" as i
like to call it..

tw: could you tell us about "super-spam"?

mh: "super-spam" basically relates to a series of flames or spams that have
meta-content, our latest series acts this way in its meta-critique of artists
using so-called critical forums as support groups.

tk: i just like the name "SUPER-SPAM"!!

mh: our latest "super-spam" project isn't interested in having any function
outside of the rhizome list. it begins and ends there. we like to call this
"cultural target marketing", using the strategies of marketing to tailor-make an
artwork for a very narrow demographic. so we use "super-spam" in conjunction
with CTM.


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